genning allophones: The iPad will always be better than Android

Yesterday, 09:56 PM

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Because of a fundamental constraint in Android's design.

Basically, an iPad can prioritize one function and Android cannot. So when the UI is in use, the iPad is devoting all of its power to making the experience responsive, while Android makes the user wait in line with the various other tasks going on.

Which means that any given two tablets, with the same amount of power but one is iOS and one is Android, the iOS tablet will always be more responsive.

And Android cannot fix this without rewriting the entire OS. So basically, unless Android manages to open up an enormous speed advantage over iOS (unlikely), it will always lag in responsiveness.

If you've ever used an android tablet, and then an ipad, you'd get it immediately. the ipad is a much better experience.

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unless Android manages to open up an enormous speed advantage over iOS (unlikely)

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Yesterday, 10:03 PM

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Because of a fundamental constraint in Android's design.

Which means that any given two tablets, with the same amount of power but one is iOS and one is Android, the iOS tablet will always be more responsive.

And Android cannot fix this without rewriting the entire OS. So basically, unless Android manages to open up an enormous speed advantage over iOS (unlikely), it will always lag in responsiveness.

If you've ever used an android tablet, and then an ipad, you'd get it immediately. the ipad is a much better experience.

You're not comparing apples to apples here, a 32gb Ipad mini will cost $430 vs 2nd gen 32gb Google Nexus 7 is $250.00. For me, Android has more functionality, is cheaper and I'm not getting ass-raped by apple's prices.

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There?s simply no two ways around the reality; the Nexus 7 runs circles ? multiple circles ? around the iPad mini. Clocking in at a Geekbench score of 2,684, that?s three and a half times faster than the iPad mini?s 766!

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Yesterday, 10:17 PM

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When the hardware is "good enough" and most common apps aren't too demanding, whatever prioritization iOS does won't matter.

I'd argue that point is now, though it will benefit Android tablets to keep having faster and faster CPUs and GPUs in their SoCs every year. Throw enough hardware at the problem and keep optimizing the operating system. That's really how Android has become much smoother and more useable since Honeycomb until Jellybean.

If you used Android tablets since the Nexus 7, you'd see whatever benefits iOS has on iPad doesn't matter quite as much anymore. The iPads do have decent GPUs, though, and a lot of nice tablet optimized apps, but the gap between the two is closing fast.

It doesn't help that Apple is behind Google/ASUS in the 7"/8" space. They got beat to the first punch, and they look bad when they don't even have a "retina" display yet on the Mini when they were the ones adverting the benefits of such a high DPI.

I do like the iPad, though. I got the iPad 1 right after it launched, and was one of the few people not laughing at it as being a "giant iPhone" prior to launch. It's one of only two products from Apple that I've ever really wanted to own, the other being the original and now the new Haswell-based Macbook Air. But Android is beating Apple at the lower price points in terms of value, and Microsoft has productivity locked up with the Surface Pro at the high end. I don't really see a need for me to get or own an iPad, but if someone gave me one I certainly wouldn't cry.

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Yesterday, 10:29 PM

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Because of a fundamental constraint in Android's design.

Which means that any given two tablets, with the same amount of power but one is iOS and one is Android, the iOS tablet will always be more responsive.

And Android cannot fix this without rewriting the entire OS. So basically, unless Android manages to open up an enormous speed advantage over iOS (unlikely), it will always lag in responsiveness.

If you've ever used an android tablet, and then an ipad, you'd get it immediately. the ipad is a much better experience.

I've used an Android tablet, and then an iPad tablet (and I own both). I continually reach for the Android tablet because there are just things iOS can't do.

So thank you for your commentary, but it doesn't hold true for everyone.

Edit, and as for your responsiveness argument. I don't really notice a difference unless I'm actively looking for it (Especially on 2012/2013 tablets). The only time I ever really get lag nowadays is when I have too many program that I run in the background (actively running).

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Yesterday, 11:02 PM

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IMHO, until it is opened up to USB (likely, never!), the iPad is only an entertainment device. An Android tablet is capable of real work involving passing material between devices.

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Yesterday, 11:16 PM

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the iPad ties in with some of my Akai Pro studio equipment, Android never will. That's Android's biggest downfalls imho, 3rd party support. My car stereo ties in flawlessly with iOS devices, it has half baked BT Android support. My friend is a professional producer and his iPad is an integral piece of his studio. I have a room full of iOS accessories, I have the Nexus 4 and there are like 3 official accessories for it and a handful of oddball ones that aren't made for it but sort of work.

I can see why some people Prefer Android, but for my needs I already know it will never do what I need it do.

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Yesterday, 11:18 PM

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New Nexus 7 16GB - $230.
iPad mini 16GB - $330.

Nexus 7 wins.

New Nexus 7 32GB - $270.
iPad mini 32GB - $430.

Nexus 7 wins even more.

New Nexus 7 32GB LTE (carrier agnostic) - $350
iPad mini 32GB LTE - $560 (pick carrier at time of purchase)

Nexus 7 has to be pulled away because it's beating the iPad so badly.

And then there's the following:
Better screen
NFC
Wireless charging
Pocketable (well, my pockets anyway)
Faster

Some will say "Oh, the iPad mini hasn't been updated yet!" So? Who cares. If a person asks for my recommendation today, I will wholeheartedly tell them to get a Nexus 7. Period.

I assure you, if the general public actually cared about app performance, they would have never bought Android devices. Android pre-4.0 was atrocious. Didn't stop it from becoming the dominant mobile OS in the world.

Yesterday, 11:41 PM

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Eh, I'm comparing like a Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7 w/ dualcore 1.4ghz processors from 2012 and android 4 vs an old ipad 2 which has dualcore 1ghz processors and iOS6 and I think it came out in 2011?

iPad 2 is a lot better.

And the main use of these tablets is in reading stuff like in a browser or interacting with apps. So yeah, it is important to be super responsive and lucid.

and the newer android device is much more frustrating.